{"id":9090,"date":"2014-03-08T11:28:37","date_gmt":"2014-03-08T09:28:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/politeknik.org.tr\/\/?p=9090"},"modified":"2019-01-29T14:51:07","modified_gmt":"2019-01-29T11:51:07","slug":"kadin-muhendis-ve-mimarlar-sen-mi-alet-tasiyacaksin-sen-mi-araziye-cikacaksin-burcu-yanar-direnen-kadinlarla-8-mart-sohbetleri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eonmeet.com\/pol\/kadin-muhendis-ve-mimarlar-sen-mi-alet-tasiyacaksin-sen-mi-araziye-cikacaksin-burcu-yanar-direnen-kadinlarla-8-mart-sohbetleri\/","title":{"rendered":"Kad\u0131n m\u00fchendis ve mimarlar: \u201cSen mi alet ta\u015f\u0131yacaks\u0131n, sen mi araziye \u00e7\u0131kacaks\u0131n?\u201d \u2013 Burcu Yanar (Direnen Kad\u0131nlarla 8 Mart Sohbetleri)"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00c7al\u0131\u015fma hayatlar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda olan iki kad\u0131n. Biri harita m\u00fchendisi, di\u011feri mimar. Politeknik\u2019te bulu\u015fup sohbet etme imkan\u0131 buldu\u011fumuz Selin Bostan ve Ekin Sar\u0131ca ile \u2018m\u00fchendislikte ve mimarl\u0131kta, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma hayat\u0131nda, \u00fcniversitede kad\u0131n olmak\u2019 \u00fczerine konu\u015ftuk. Kad\u0131nlar\u0131n i\u015f hayat\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr olmak i\u00e7in t\u00fcm i\u015f y\u00fck\u00fcn\u00fc s\u0131rtlanmas\u0131ndan \u2018fiziki ko\u015fullar nedeniyle erkeksile\u015fmek\u2019 zorunda kalmas\u0131na kadar bir\u00e7ok soruna de\u011findik.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"selin\"<\/a>
Selin Bostan, Harita M\u00fchendisi, y\u00fcksek lisans e\u011fitimine devam ediyor. 2 y\u0131ld\u0131r \u00fccretli olarak \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Ayn\u0131 zamanda Harita M\u00fchendisleri Odas\u0131 \u0130stanbul \u015eubesi Y\u00f6netim Kurulu \u00fcyesi.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Selin:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u00fchendislik ne ailem ne de \u00e7evrem a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan \u00f6nerilen bir \u015fey de\u011fildi. \u00c7o\u011fu ailede g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz gibi. Say\u0131sal mant\u0131k ya da m\u00fchendislik formasyonu dedi\u011fimiz o d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce bi\u00e7imi, analitik d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnme bi\u00e7imi hem ya\u015fam tarz\u0131nda hem de ba\u015fka alanlarda \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ayr\u0131ca bu kadar erkek yo\u011funlu\u011funun oldu\u011fu bir meslekte de kad\u0131nlar\u0131n var olmas\u0131n\u0131n hem kad\u0131nlar hem de toplum a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Bu \u015fekilde m\u00fchendis oldum diyebilirim.<\/p>\n

Ekin:<\/strong>\u00a0\u0130nsanlar becerileri ve ilgi alanlar\u0131 do\u011frultusunda meslek se\u00e7imi yap\u0131yor. Ama cinsiyet olarak d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz zaman ilk etapta e\u011fitim s\u00fcrecinde kad\u0131n a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131kl\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenci profili dikkat \u00e7ekiyor. Fakat e\u011fitim s\u00fcresince de \u015fu hocalar taraf\u0131ndan s\u00f6yleniyor: \u00c7ok \u00fcnl\u00fc mimarlar\u0131n erkek olmas\u0131, piyasada erkeklerin mimar olarak daha \u00e7ok kabul g\u00f6rmesi fiziki ko\u015fullar\u0131n ileri s\u00fcr\u00fclmesi.<\/p>\n

Siz de biraz bahsettiniz. Toplumun g\u00f6z\u00fcnde m\u00fchendislik erkek i\u015fi olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. \u00dcniversitede ya da g\u00fcnl\u00fck hayat\u0131n\u0131zda bunun \u00f6rnekleriyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131? Mesela \u00fcniversite hocalar\u0131n\u0131n ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 durumlarla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Selin:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00dcniversitede a\u00e7\u0131k a\u00e7\u0131k hocalar\u0131n s\u00f6yleyebilece\u011fi \u015feyler yok. Belli s\u00f6ylemlerle bunu ima edebilirler. Kad\u0131n m\u00fchendis ayr\u0131m\u0131 \u00fcniversite i\u00e7inde \u00e7ok belirgin de\u011fil ancak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma hayat\u0131na girince bunun ayr\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 3-4 kat fazla hissedebiliyorsun. Ben kendimden \u00f6rnek vereyim. Harita m\u00fchendisiyim ve i\u015fimin yakla\u015f\u0131k y\u00fczde 70-80\u2032i arazide. Bu nedenle s\u00fcrekli \u201cSen ofiste otur, sen ofis s\u00fcs\u00fc ol, sen mi alet ta\u015f\u0131yacaks\u0131n, sen mi araziye \u00e7\u0131kacaks\u0131n, i\u015f\u00e7ilerle sen ne konu\u015fabilirsin ki\u201d gibi s\u00f6ylemlere maruz kal\u0131yoruz. Bu gibi s\u00f6ylemler nedeniyle al\u0131nmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir\u00e7ok i\u015f oldu ki yakla\u015f\u0131k 7-8 ay boyunca i\u015fsiz kald\u0131m. \u015eu anda \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m ofiste de arazi i\u015fleri oldu\u011fu zaman \u2018sen otur, sat\u0131\u015fa bak, \u015funa bak, buna bak\u2019 tarz\u0131nda ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k yap\u0131l\u0131yor. \u2018Sen anne olacaks\u0131n, evleneceksin\u2019 gibi yak\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmalardan \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc de m\u00fchendislik mesle\u011finde \u00e7ok ileriye gidemezsin deniliyor. \u2018Ya i\u015fi b\u0131rak, ya memur ol\u2019 gibi s\u00f6ylemlerle kad\u0131nlar s\u00fcrekli pasifize edilmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor erkekler \u00f6n plana \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131l\u0131yor. \u2018Erkek m\u00fchendis olsa daha iyi\u2019 deniliyor. \u00d6zellikle evlilik, \u00e7ocuk gibi konular i\u015fverenin i\u015fe al\u0131m s\u00fcre\u00e7lerinde kad\u0131nlar\u0131 elemesine neden oluyor.<\/p>\n

Ekin:<\/strong>\u00a0Mimarl\u0131k i\u00e7in m\u00fchendislikle benze\u015fen durumlar var. Farkl\u0131 olarak mimarlar\u0131n iki koldan ilerleyen bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma hayat\u0131 var. Baz\u0131 ofislerde bu net bi\u00e7imde ayr\u0131l\u0131yor. Baz\u0131lar\u0131nda i\u00e7 i\u00e7e ge\u00e7mi\u015f durumda. \u015eantiye ve ofis olarak ayr\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in \u015fantiyede genelde erkekler tercih ediliyor. Bu durum i\u015f ilanlar\u0131nda da belirtiliyor. Ofiste bu ayr\u0131m daha az. Benim do\u011frudan kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir durum olmad\u0131 ancak kad\u0131n arkada\u015flar\u0131mdan i\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerinde evlenme kararlar\u0131n\u0131n, \u00e7ocuk yapma kararlar\u0131n\u0131n irdelendi\u011fini duydum.<\/p>\n

Meslek hayat\u0131nda bir kad\u0131n olarak ne kadar g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcrs\u00fcn?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Selin:<\/strong>\u00a0\u015e\u00f6yle bir s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rma yapay\u0131m: Erkek m\u00fchendis daha \u00e7ok i\u015f yapar, kad\u0131n m\u00fchendis de onu toparlar. Erkek da\u011f\u0131n\u0131kt\u0131r, kad\u0131n\u0131n onun e\u015fyas\u0131n\u0131 toplar, hesaplar\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fczenler, i\u015fi erkek yapar ama sunu\u015f kad\u0131n m\u00fchendisin \u00fczerindedir. Bu \u00f6rnekler kad\u0131nlar\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fcnmeyen emeklerine birer \u00f6rnek. Asl\u0131nda kad\u0131n m\u00fchendislerin y\u00fck\u00fc daha fazla. Kad\u0131n m\u00fchendislerin m\u00fccadele alan\u0131 \u00e7ok daha fazla, yapmas\u0131 gereken i\u015f \u00e7ok daha fazla. \u00d6rne\u011fin, erkek m\u00fchendis gelir araziden oturur, geriye kalan her \u015feyi kad\u0131n m\u00fchendis toplar. B\u00fct\u00fcn arazi plan\u0131n\u0131 kad\u0131n m\u00fchendis \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r. Bir i\u015fin ba\u015f\u0131ndan sonuna kad\u0131n m\u00fchendisin i\u00e7inde olmas\u0131 gerekir. Ancak kad\u0131n hep itilir. Kad\u0131n m\u00fchendislerin g\u00f6r\u00fcnmeyen eme\u011fi \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc hem bu alanda var olma m\u00fccadelesi veriyorsun hem de en \u00e7ok eme\u011fi veriyorsun. Sigorta priminden tut, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma saatlerine kadar her konuda ezilen sen oluyorsun.<\/p>\n

\"ekin\"<\/a>
Ekin Sar\u0131ca, mimar, yakla\u015f\u0131k iki y\u0131ld\u0131r \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma hayat\u0131nda.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Ekin:<\/strong>\u00a0Evet \u00f6yle bir alg\u0131 var. \u00d6\u011frenci profiline bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131n zaman da kad\u0131n \u00f6\u011frencinin fazlal\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsun. Ama demin de bahsetti\u011fim gibi \u00fcnl\u00fc mimarlar aras\u0131ndaki kad\u0131nlara bir \u00f6rnek verin derler. Bir tane \u00fcnl\u00fc \u00f6rnek var, Zaha Hadid diye. \u2018O da kad\u0131n m\u0131 ya\u2019 gibisinden tepki verenler olur. Direk kad\u0131n\u0131n fiziksel g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fc yarg\u0131lan\u0131r, kad\u0131nl\u0131k kriterleri ortaya sa\u00e7\u0131l\u0131r, kad\u0131n mimar\u0131n kad\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorgulan\u0131r. \u015eantiyede \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan kad\u0131n mimar oran\u0131n ko\u015fullar\u0131na kendini adapte ediyor. Adapte olma bi\u00e7imi ise erkeksile\u015fmeye ba\u015flamak oluyor. Bu da kad\u0131n mimar\u0131n \u015fantiyede varolma bi\u00e7imini yans\u0131t\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

TRT\u2019nin \u2018bay g\u0131da m\u00fchendisi\u2019 talebi hakk\u0131nda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Selin:<\/strong>\u00a0Tam AKP\u2019nin kal\u0131b\u0131na uygun. Onlar\u0131 yans\u0131tan ve beklenen bir talepti. Buna kar\u015f\u0131 verilen bir cevap oldu ancak ne kadar g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr oldu, tart\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131r. Bunlar AKP\u2019nin kad\u0131na bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131, d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, hangi kal\u0131plara soktu\u011funu ortaya sa\u00e7\u0131yor asl\u0131nda. Ayr\u0131ca \u2018bay g\u0131da m\u00fchendisi\u2019 talebini bir TV program\u0131nda toplumun g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc gibi sunuyor. Talep \u2018g\u0131da m\u00fchendisi\u2019 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in sadece G\u0131da M\u00fchendisleri Odas\u0131\u2019ndan bir cevap geldi. Ancak t\u00fcm kad\u0131n m\u00fchendislerin bu talebe kar\u015f\u0131 g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir yan\u0131t vermesi gerekirdi.<\/p>\n

Ekin:<\/strong>\u00a0Devlet politikas\u0131n\u0131n bir ifade bi\u00e7imi olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. TRT devletin televizyon y\u00fcz\u00fc ve bizim bildi\u011fimiz cinsiyet\u00e7i devlet politikas\u0131n\u0131 topluma yans\u0131tma \u2018g\u00f6revini\u2019 y\u00fcklenmi\u015f durumda.<\/p>\n

Daha \u00f6nce 8 Mart\u2019a kat\u0131ld\u0131n m\u0131? Bu y\u0131l 8 Mart\u2019a gidecek misin? Taleplerin neler?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Selin:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00dcz\u00fcc\u00fc bir \u015fey ama san\u0131r\u0131m bir kere kat\u0131ld\u0131m. Bu sene ise i\u015f hayat\u0131mda ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131mdan, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki genel kad\u0131n politikalar\u0131n\u0131n sonu\u00e7lar\u0131na duydu\u011fum \u00f6fkeden, art\u0131k yeter, dur, bitsin dedi\u011fimiz noktaday\u0131z diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Daha \u00f6nce kad\u0131n fark\u0131ndal\u0131\u011f\u0131m bu kadar de\u011fildi. Hala da yeterli g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum. Kad\u0131n hareketinin topyekun olarak kad\u0131n d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131 politikalara kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Se\u00e7imler de yakla\u015f\u0131yor. Kad\u0131nlar\u0131n bu d\u00f6nemde daha g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr daha g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc hale gelmesi gerekiyor. Kad\u0131nlar zaten Gezi direni\u015finde de en \u00f6ndeydi. Tam da 8 Mart\u2019ta se\u00e7imlerin \u00f6ncesinde, \u00e7ok g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir 8 Mart olmal\u0131. Bu nedenlerle ben de 8 Mart\u2019ta sokakta olaca\u011f\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Ekin:<\/strong>\u00a0En ba\u015fta tabii ki de kendi \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fcklerimiz i\u00e7in 8 Mart\u2019ta soka\u011fa \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yoruz. Ben k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ya\u015flardan itibaren annem kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in 8 Mart\u2019a gittim. \u00d6zellikle son d\u00f6nemlerde artan kad\u0131n cinayetleri, kad\u0131n d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n bir devlet politikas\u0131 haline d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fclmesi, te\u015fvik edilmesi ve cezaland\u0131r\u0131lmamas\u0131 kad\u0131nlar\u0131n isyan\u0131nda b\u00fcy\u00fck bir rol oynuyor. Benim de bu konuda isyan\u0131m var ve bunun i\u00e7in 8 Mart\u2019ta sokakta olaca\u011f\u0131m.<\/p>\n

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